An idea for ADL runs : we can farm two pop sets and kill ADL twice. If we can, we'll do more. Then we sell the drops and split the money between those who were at this run. This way, there's no need for point system or attendance. And everyone have a reward for the effort. All sells could be reported in LS bank with the date of the corresponding day and splitted within the related alliance. Feel free to make suggestions.
i don't know how possible it will be to fully farm and kill 2 adl a run cause we are kinda reliant on drops for that. i would think if we did 1 or 2 farm runs as a group we could have 6+ pops on each ADL run. give points or credit for the people who show up to farm and have the people showing up to the farming runs get to lot on the first marrow and the people who show for kills lot on the second?
Farm ADL pops and kill them in the same run, anywhere between 2-4 ADLs a run were killed without a problem. They would save up a set of 5 marrows, one set would go to the member with the best attendance, the next sold, next to member, next sold etcetc.. They would save up all the Gil made from marrows and split based on attendance at the end of each month. This would bring in about 15m per person who has attended every run. At first they were doing 2 runs a week then decided to up it to 3.
I believe they gave 1 point of attendance per run to decide order of Umbrals then gave points depending on how many ADLs were killed that same run to determine amount people got for pay outs. Overall it's a pretty effective system and encourages people to pay attention and be efficient so that every gets rewarded well along with pumping out 99 relics for the people who work for it and deserve it. (The requirement to get umbrals was to /own/ a 95 relic, not be working on one. Or get 5 to sell to work on a 99 Empy)
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I kinda like the ideas of both Highlulu and Mander's posts. The only downside is that everyone who farms for the marrows aren't going to use them for relic upgrades, but instead to sell them. Maybe have it so whoever has farmed a pop, they get to lock a marrow. If 2 drops, then that along with the other drops can be free lotted. Also, if someone has won a marrow from a free lot, they can't lot on the marrows until everyone has gotten one from a free maybe. At the same time it might be rough to keep track of since there are so many members in the LS.
I don't see how that's a downside with the system I've suggested considering it isn't an option. People who get marrows must have a 95 Relic to get them or making 99 Empy or a Mythic in order to be able to sell. Everyone gets a good payout at the end of the month to keep them coming which is dependent on their attendance.
Frankly this "everyone gets one marrow" and ideas alike has got to go, 'cause it's going to end up to not be worth everyone's time. On top of that everyone in LS having 1 marrow isn't going to benefit it in the way of 3-5 people having a 99 relic instead.
As for people farming outside, this was never really encouraged or addressed. There was no system for splitting them. The problem I see with it is as just the LS we'll easily be able to farm as many pop sets as we can possibly kill in one run and we'll be pushing it to the last few mins. If people start flooding in with their own pop sets then we'll end up either neglecting their hard work, or our own.
If people are so inclined to farm their own pop sets out side then we limit it to 1 or 2 TOPs (on a day with shitty drop rates on NM items, NMs being a bitch etc) and on top of that they MUST go to a Relic, Empy or Mythic, period. There are many other ways of making very easy money that doesn't require wasting the ls's time.
As for the drops on out side farmed sets, I suggested 1st umbral to the pop set farmer and 2nd to the ls to sell and split at end of the month, all items free lot. It's a little unfair and more in benefit to the pop set farmer but as long as they're staying with the ls long term I don't see a problem with it.
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Ok, that seems fair to me then. I really didn't know how to word it correctly(which i'm often terrible at.) I said that because i'm one of the people that would sell the marrows to pay for my 95 Kannagi and to work on a relic possibly.
Hey everyone :] Ok so, problems i see in letting anyone get directly a marrow is it will make trouble and it will never be perfectly fair. And no need to build relic/emp/mythic for participate adl imo (example: ppl who are 1st job blm or whm, they prolly would like to get money for meteor or arise too). There is problems on letting ppl use their owns pops in ls runs too imo,(example: it favorize ppl who has multi-char, dualbox,triobox,etc… easier for them to farm owns pops and use ls for kills.its unfair). need to do all as LS Another thing is we need to do all in same run imo, or it will make troubles~. for example: if anyone join a farm run, and for any reasons cant be online for kill runs(many have diff play times), he will be unhappy and cry~, which it can be bit/half understable~. Another problem of separate farm and kills runs is: we will need to make some point system and atendance system. Points and atendance points systems is UBER good ways to start making troubles in a ls(everyone know this, and like 99% ppl alrdy seen troubles from points systems~). SO, my system is simple and 100%fair: (btw notice the votes: split/sell votes wons) We do all in same run, farm+kill( farm2,kill2, or more or less, we will figure numbers of farm+kill on uses~, number isnt the question for now~). So farms+kills in same run.then we simply get screenshot for atendance or write on paper~. then we sell marrows we got on this run, and we simply split money to ppl who was here for this run. Everyone who joinned this run will get same reward(100%fair) ( i consider everyone who join run stay till end evidently, logic and not hard). Good points of this system are: -No need any points system or atendance points system, because all runs will be separated. no headache for leaders and no ppl crys on bad counting points etc… -Everyone will get the same money splited equally for their effords. -it will motivate ppl to come because no separate runs. ppl will get direct rewards(once marrows sold). -it will avoid the problem of having ppls who only show up for kill runs. -Everyone will get fair splited money equally. so everyones with any favourite jobs,any favourite weapons, any favourites gears or anythings, will be able to do what they want with their money~ (buy marrows(from ls if wants~),build relic75,build emps,build mythics,buy meteor or arise,buy gears). well up to u, its ur money ^^; Bad points of my system: -i dont see anys ^^ because all in same run, and split equally to ppl in this run -Bad point for ppls who wanted to fk others only, lol dont worrie, i dont point anyone, i just say it :)
so, excuse me again if anything not properlly writed or if anything seems rude( i dont want to be rude^^), english isnt my main language.
Melchior Ballester replied
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